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July 22, 2011

I am sorry you can’t put Primer and Paint in the same can

You just can’t.  Now that two companies are now selling a product that they say contains primer and paint in the same can, I feel free to take them to task.  I stopped by a local big box store and got the most experienced person in the paint department and asked them if they had that product.

They said that they did indeed have that product.  I asked if it had a separate can for the primer in the can?  He hesitated and said ‘no’.  He then said that it was new chemistry.

I asked if it needed a special brush and he said no.  So I then said, ‘so you apply the paint with a regular brush and the primer goes on first, dries and is sanded before the wet paint in the same brush goes over the top?’

At this point he smiled, dropped his gaze to the floor, cleared his throat and said that was what he was suppose to say.  I realized he didn’t buy it either.  Next time I am in there I will show him a copy of Shellac, Linseed Oil & Paint, so he doesn’t think I am some kind of weirdo.  But then given the way I dress and act the book may do nothing to change his mind.

Back to the issue at hand, sure you may put primer and paint in the same can but that defeats the purpose of a primer.  So if they do put primer and paint in the same can then the primer is too thick and the paint is too thin.  You put them together and you get neither the benefits or purposes of either.  It is all advertising hype, nay it is an outright lie, yet people swallow this crap all the time.

Like using latex paint and water based varnishes because you are able to clean up the brushes with soap and water.  It is also possible to wash out oil based paint and varnish from the brushes with soap and water.  Don’t get me started.




  1. I also wash brushes used with alcohol varnishes with soap and water, it helps to rinse them in alcohol first though. I particularly like olive oil based soaps for cleaning brushes.

    Comment by Philip R — July 22, 2011 @ 5:26 pm

  2. Perhaps you missed the point of the product. You must paint exceedingly fast in order to activate the primer v. paint actions. By doing so, the primer bonds first, followed by the paint. Or so I am told.

    Comment by Gary Roberts — July 23, 2011 @ 7:08 pm

  3. I never understood the no soap and water clean up for oil based products. I use a little mineral spirits to thin out the material left in the reservoir, then wash all my brushes in Murphy’s Oil soap. Then a quick dip in alcohol and they are good to go. Of course I use quality brushes. Speaking as someone that works in one of those big box stores try getting someone to spend $20 on a good brush.

    Comment by James Ogle — July 24, 2011 @ 12:46 pm

  4. No strawberries for your corn flakes this morning, Stephen?

    Comment by Mitchell — July 24, 2011 @ 8:30 pm

  5. then again, there is something anarchistic in the idea of blending primer and paint, thereby reducing the workload of the masses. On the other hand, doing so increases the profit margin of the manufacturer, lessening the positive social impact the product brings to the workers.

    Me? I’m a solipsist at heart

    Comment by Gary Roberts — July 25, 2011 @ 11:37 am

  6. much like a two-in-one shampoo/conditioner; what you get is a moisturizing shampoo. ah, gimmicks, and the suckers who buy them.

    Comment by anastasia — August 26, 2011 @ 8:33 am

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