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October 19, 2008


Filed under: Historical Material,Of Interest,Proper Tools,Sawing,Uncategorized — Stephen Shepherd @ 3:55 pm

Today at the local flea market, I acquired this hacksaw from that nice lady I have spoke of before, I wonder where she gets this stuff?  Well it was nice seeing her again and I beat her up on the price, I gave here a dollar less than her asking price of $5.00. 


The overall length is 22″ and it can cut 3″ deep.  The blade is 12″, a nice newer Starrett High Speed Steel hacksaw blade with individually set teeth, not the normal wavy pattern.  Note that the back has a belly or sway back and it looks like it was original to the manufacturing, this saw shows little wear.  And the back is also a bit out of being straight as it looks like it was distorted slightly with the addition of the touch marks.


It can hold a blade either horizontally or vertically with double slots and holes in the bolsters. 

Arm joint at handle bolster

The arm is tenoned into the handle bolster.  The bolster has a brass ferrule on an ebonized beech handle and has a tang that goes through the handle and is secured with a washer and is riveted over.

Tension bolster

The entire brace except the handle and ferrule are made of wrought iron and it is forge welded, the lap joint visible in the hole.  The bolster only fits in one way into the arm.  At first I thought the wing-nut was cast, then upon closer examination it is also hand forged of wrought iron.

Hacksaw Logo

Here is the logo, it looks like it is two separate punches as they are a bit off on register.  I can not make out the other tool, besides the hammer, it appears to have threads on its lower end?  J.D.S.&L., and nothing appeared on a search of the web.



  1. Could it be I.D.S.&L.? Or could that first letter be a T? or an L? Hey. That would make the first 3 letters LDS – and you’re in Utah, right?

    Just wondering, how can you tell that the wing nut is hand forged? And further wondering, how in the world does somebody hand forge a wing nut or anything with internal threads?

    And then I’m wondering why would somebody hand-make a hacksaw?

    Sorry, I’m just full of curiosity today. A most intriguing tool.

    Comment by Joe Cottonwood — October 19, 2008 @ 7:24 pm

  2. Joe,

    When I first looked at the logo, I thought it was LDS, but then. The end of the J is broken off the stamp as is the serif on the L.

    As for the wing nut, it would have been forged around a mandrel that was undersized then the internal threads cut with a tap. The external threads in a die box, very similar to modern tap and die. There is a possibility that the hole was drilled after it was made, but that is more work than forming it around a mandrel or punching a hole in the work, then forming the wings. The hole would have been reamed then tapped.

    During the late nineteenth century they would have been one piece frame drop forged or cast, this one is earlier, I think, and they went to a lot of work to make this particular saw. It would also have been provided in the white or bright to reduce rusting.


    Comment by Stephen Shepherd — October 19, 2008 @ 7:59 pm

  3. Here’s what I have: I sent a reversed b&w image of the logo to you. The tools look like a leather workers scraper for cleaning rough hides. The hammer could be a tack hammer. The lettering seems to be T.D.S. & L. And thats as far I I am sofar. Have to check the DAT to see if there are any matches.


    Comment by Gary Roberts — October 19, 2008 @ 9:07 pm

  4. Gary,

    Got the image, I still think it might be a J, but I will put a T in the search. I too thought it was a hide scraper, but the straight end appears to have threads? It could be a tack hammer it also could be a London Pattern Cabinet Hammer with a cross pane.


    Comment by Stephen Shepherd — October 20, 2008 @ 8:21 am

  5. Ya know, I think this might be on the order of a jewelers saw rather than a hack saw. The inline handle looks more like this sort of beast. Or maybe not. Possibly the gadget crossing the hammer is a potato spit for baking potatoes?

    Comment by Gary Roberts — October 20, 2008 @ 2:32 pm

  6. Ever find out anything about the j.d.s.&l. logo? I have acquired a double bladed knife I think is a mezzaluna with the same logo.

    Comment by Mike — September 7, 2011 @ 10:49 pm

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